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Adnan Oktar's live discussion on A9 TV with Richard Giragosian, director of the Armenian think tank RSC (13 December 2014)

ADNAN OKTAR: Welcome, you do us an honor. We are delighted that you have come. Masha’Allah.

Yes, please introduce our guest.

- Richard Giragosian is an American Armenian. He is currently living in Armenia and is the director of a think tank.

ADNAN OKTAR: Excellent. In Ottoman times we used to refer to the Armenians as ‘the loyal nation.’You are a part of us. We love you very dearly. There were Armenian artists and doctors in Ottoman times. We had Armenian generals, very high-ranking. They were very dear to us, but they tried to set us against one another. We will put that right, however and return to the fine days of the past.

We would like to hear what you have to say. Please go ahead.

RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: My work with the Turkish government as well is in support of normalizing relations.

ADNAN OKTAR: Excellent, that is a very honorable task.

RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: It is also the way forward with a spirit of sincerity and humanity.

ADNAN OKTAR: That is what reason and good conscience require. 

RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: And we have a shared history together and a shared future. Insha’Allah.

ADNAN OKTAR: Insha’Allah. We hope to see you in Turkey again. We hope you will be everywhere once again. We will open the border to Armenia. We do not want visas and passports. They are our brothers. We will enjoy those fine and joyous days until the Reckoning.

I think he speaks some Turkish.

RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: Of course.

ADNAN OKTAR: Excellent, excellent,masha’Allah. MayGod grant you success in your work and smooth your path. You are on an auspicious, blessed and pleasant road. We wish to help you with all our strength.

RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: What is also important in this time of violence is that we are solving common problems based on peace and friendship.

ADNAN OKTAR: There is this savagery and lovelessness in the world. It is amazing how little people love one another. Those who love people and who love God will eliminate this scourge. People who loveGod and other people are rapidly coming together, and they are the real power in the world. Love will rule the world once they combine together. Peace will govern the world.   

RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: And with the spiritual foundation for this leadership.

ADNAN OKTAR: Of course. I think I will learn valuableinformation from you. You say great things as you speak, and that open our hearts. We wish to listen to you.

RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN:Well, fortunately I have met twice with former President Gul, met Prime Minister AhmetDavutoglu. There is a new sincerity to move forward and to be less prisoners of hatred or the past.

ADNAN OKTAR: There is no reason for hatred. And there is no logic to it. The Armenians are fine people. They are artistic and intelligent. They always treated us with love and affection in Ottoman times. A devilish power set us against one another, but satan is about to be defeated right now. 

RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: What is also important is, we are overcoming the ignorance, the lack of spirituality the threat of terrorism, but we are overcoming these obstacles together.

ADNAN OKTAR: Excellent. Yes,AhmetDavutoglu is a highly wise person, and very sincere. His heart is like that of a child. Since he is very honest your relations with him are quite correct, and I think it would be a good idea to improve them even further. He is full of love, and someone whom everyone can trust. 

RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: And like today’s discussion, offers wisdom.

ADNAN OKTAR: Yes, he attaches great importance to spiritual matters and to love. He values affection and compassion. He concentrates on the most vital human aspects.

RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: Like tonight.

ADNAN OKTAR:Masha’Allah,masha’Allah. Of course, we are delighted to see you here. This is one of the portents that we will enjoy fine times with our Armenian brothers. But we need to accelerate the process. It has slowed down a bit. It was quite fast previously, but then satanic forces got involved. And that spoiled the outcomes. There was an interruption. If we ask AhmetDavutoğlu, and this is what President Erdogan thinks, too, the border with Armenia can be opened up very quickly. It is very important for us for our Armenian brothers to return to Turkey. It is very important for them to be in Turkey. We want to share that joy, and we want the borders to be lifted, and visas and passports to be done away with.

RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: And we also have diplomatic relations to be established; getting to know one another once again.

ADNAN OKTAR: It is very important to step this up. I have a request to make of you, and of the prime minister. This can be done in a matter of months. There is an unnecessary loss of time. There is no reason for it. It would be useful to bring this fine thing about at once.

RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: And the longer we wait, the more difficult it becomes.

ADNAN OKTAR: It has entered an unnecessary waiting phase. AhmetDavutoglu took some fine initiatives on the subject earlier. But some people came here from Azerbaijan, various people came, and things happened. Acts of provocation occurred at a match, and they stopped it. They halted it in a very odd way. We were just about to get results. We are stronger than them. We are stronger than people who like fighting and loveless people. Let us put our foot down and get results right away.

RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN:  And it is important that Azerbaijan is recognized as of course being important, but a separate issue than our relationship. I was in Azerbaijan this past June, it is important that we recognize the importance of Azerbaijan, but a good relation between Armenia and Turkey will help Azerbaijan.

ADNAN OKTAR: The border crossings can be opened up at the same time. It would be very easy then. Passport and visa requirement with Armenia and Azerbaijan should be lifted on the same day. Let us insist on demanding this from the government. It is an easy thing. There is no need for unnecessary measures and alarm. We must make this a reality with an immediate decision. AhmetDavutoglu is very virtuous, and I think he will agree right away. We will put all the support we can on. You place advocacy on this, too, and let’s get results. It is being exaggerated unnecessarily, as if it were very difficult. That is how we used to live. We will just be going back to the old times, that is all. We need to show a bit of courage. We should not be concerned what others would think about it. We need to implement it and put an end to it. We need to get to where it is over and done with. It is very important to be courageous. Then we need to consider the results. We must act first and think later. If they askus, ‘Why did you do this fine thing?’ we can say, ‘We like doing fine things.’That is all.

RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN: It is also more than politics; this is statesmanship, leadership and vision of the future.

ADNAN OKTAR: Love is a fine thing, as are peace, brotherhood and friendship. Nobody can deprive us of these things.

RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN:  There is no alternative.

ADNAN OKTAR:Insha’Allah. If he has anything else he would like to add, I shall be pleased to hear it. Then we can have a break.

RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN:  Just very briefly the fact that I am here as your guest and to share in wisdom and high ideals is important.

ADNAN OKTAR:Excellent. I am delighted at your coming. It has been an honor, a great joy. I am delighted that our Armenian brother has been here with us. This is as pleasing like a celebration. Thank you so much. I hope to see you again with even more Armenian brothers next time.

RICHARD GIRAGOSIAN:  Yes, thank you, insha’Allah.

ADNAN OKTAR: The loveless will be marred with this, but the people of love will be filled with delight. Masha’Allah.

 

 

2014-12-20 14:39:01

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